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tomiga
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I have a question for you what features / adjustements would you like to see in the next edition of the game.

They can be both minor improvements and completely new functionalities. Treat it as brainstorming. Not all of them will probably be implemented, but I will definitely look at each of them.

Your idea should consist of three elements

Idea - a brief description of your idea
Why do you think this is a good idea - what will the game gain or what current problem will it solve.
How do you see it - how do you imagine your idea implemented in the game.

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dester23
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Maybe having more variety on the random events, because after a while playing they feel repetitive.

Maybe having a option that can enable funny/randoms events with unexpected consecuences.

I don't know if I'm expresing good.


   
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01) Actor/Director bond

what if you picked a director to work on you're movie but he'll only do it with the actor he has great relationships, chemistry and bond or the main actor will only be in you're if a certain director is picked for the movie, this will only help the movie big time or ruin it. E.g Martin Scorsese and Robert De Niro and James Cameron and Arnold Schwarzenegger,Quentin Tarantino really likes working with Leonardo DiCaprio, Brad Pitt and Christoph Waltz.

Add more the game and realism

02) Interacting with other studio's

Maybe we can interact with the other big studio like Sony and Disney etc like them buying our movies or us working on one of their movies, or us buying one of their already successful movies and will try make the sequel hoping to make the same successful movie just like the first did. This will feel like you're playing with others and its a great way to interact with the other studio.

Adds more to the game and its feels like there's more options in the game

03) Getting interviewed every yearly

Maybe after every year you'll get interviewed about the year and the movies you made/produced by rolling stones, deadline and even Variety etc and you'll have to choose you're answer carefully because if choose the wrong or you choose to say something bad about the actors/director they'll refuse to work with you in the feature or the bond and chemistry goes down. And if one of you're Creators win an Oscar they'll ask questions about that and how it was to work with other actors or directors or you could even be asked what other actors were being considered for that role etc.

Adds media to the game and shows how important media is to the film industry and now adds more realistic real life to the game

04) And there's a festival called tiff to add with gala and Oscar

---------And also can we some how add new actors or update their photos or even edit some of the actors ability by our self's to make it easier on you, like our owns sets. if something like this already can you make it easier to download. More to come later 🙂


   
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In general I didn't want to comment too much of your ideas as it is against "brainstorming" technique but for some point my explanations can be helpfull.

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02) Interacting with other studio's

Maybe we can interact with the other big studio like Sony and Disney etc like them buying our movies or us working on one of their movies, or us buying one of their already successful movies and will try make the sequel hoping to make the same successful movie just like the first did. This will feel like you're playing with others and its a great way to interact with the other studio.

Adds more to the game and its feels like there's more options in the game

Currently there are features which partially covers this point.

First of them is Executive producer it allows you to make movie for other player/studio.

The second is licensing and rights to the movies mechanics where you can try to buy licenses for other players movies (of course not always other player may want to sell it).

04) And there's a festival called tiff to add with gala and Oscar

About adding extra festival I have explaining my point of view in FAQ

---------And also can we some how add new actors or update their photos or even edit some of the actors ability by our self's to make it easier on you, like our owns sets. if something like this already can you make it easier to download. More to come later 🙂

There were dedicated editor for Movie Business 2. Unfortunately over few years it didn't work out. I mean I didn't get any playable set created by the players. The reality is that if players indeed wanted to create it is own set the problem is that not much of them will really do it as it requires few hundreds of hours to make it enough to be playable.

That is the reason that I resigned with this idea and instead of this I put en effort to provide online tool for proposing the creators by players. That how MovieStats was created. And the beginning it was not so successful but now it is use quite often by players. There are two main benefits the online editor comparing to the offline one.

First you do not have to add by yourself few hundreds of creators to make a set which is playable. So if you miss only few creators you can easily add it without much time spend on it.

The second it contributes to the original set which I think currently is the most complete and various database of real creators in the computer games. Additionally it makes all parameters quite comparable (as the proposal are moderated by me) I also check photos quality (reject creators which photos quality do not match the game standard).

There were dedicated text (unfortunately in Polish) about adding own creators to MovieStats. I think in the future I need to make some video to show how to do it more directly.

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Maybe having more variety on the random events, because after a while playing they feel repetitive.

Maybe having a option that can enable funny/randoms events with unexpected consecuences.

I don't know if I'm expresing good.

In general every new version of the game has approach "Bigger, Better, more Badness". So in each major update I am trying to extend somehow existing functionalities. Nevertheless the main point of release is to introduce the new one.

Of course repetitiveness problem is common for all games similar to Movie Business as the more you play the more repetitiveness is visible (this is only the game which must be programmed and all situations and consequences must be predicted by author). There can be solved in few way (for example make it not so often appeared for the player.... or "just" create new one which requires more effort)

The other problem with new random/funny events it that... somebody needs to invent it... And I think this is is one of the major problem.

So please propose some funny events with unexpected consequences 🙂 which can be added to the game.

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I want bigger box office numbers/worldwide that could reach earning billions.

longer playing time atleast 100 years

adding how many cinema s will my movie be shown this will affect the earnings of the movie the more cinemas the higher and it will also have cost to show it


   
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Maybe having more variety on the random events, because after a while playing they feel repetitive.

Maybe having a option that can enable funny/randoms events with unexpected consecuences.

I don't know if I'm expresing good.

In general every new version of the game has approach "Bigger, Better, more Badness". So in each major update I am trying to extend somehow existing functionalities. Nevertheless the main point of release is to introduce the new one.

Of course repetitiveness problem is common for all games similar to Movie Business as the more you play the more repetitiveness is visible (this is only the game which must be programmed and all situations and consequences must be predicted by author). There can be solved in few way (for example make it not so often appeared for the player.... or "just" create new one which requires more effort)

The other problem with new random/funny events it that... somebody needs to invent it... And I think this is is one of the major problem.

So please propose some funny events with unexpected consequences 🙂 which can be added to the game.

Sorry I don't want to bother your plans of the new version but I've playing a lot lately to the game and I want to point out some things. Hope your health is better.

Some Ideas:

Control Releasing the movie:

Having more control over when releasing the movie. For me it is not very important, but sometimes I have 2 or 3 big movies releasing in the same month, provoking major loses. Maybe having control over when releasing the movie would also affect the way you have to advert the movie. I think it can be a cool feature but I also understand that can change a lot the game in a bad way.

Actor perspective:

A game mode where you are an actor and you receive some parts in movies, getting reviews and awards and improving your skills over years. I view this idea not very likely to be implemented (too much effort, much like another different game), but it is interesting.

Till when you plan to start the game:

If you are a donnor you can start the game in 1970, have you planned to even start earlier, it would be interesting. Maybe it would require some economic tweaks.

About creators:

- Capability of making more flexible skills of the creators. Enabling or disabling a option where in the game the creators get better or worse in their skills depending of their performance and the number of movies they made, marking more those stats in case of popularity.

- More importance of non-real creators. The reality is that at least me I do not use practically never the non-real creators. I don't know anothers players. In the last part of the game, starting around 2015, the number of good action actors is very low. A good chance would be that for example starting in 2020, new stars appear giving the game vitality. I think in the first part of the game 1970s, are not needed, but in the last part, giving them importance and maybe 1 or 2 high skills would make the last part more fresh, i don't know.

- Keanu Reeves Paradigm:

Old actors that get better in action movies when time passes? I understand that this is an exemption and it would not affect a lot to the game, but still interesting.

- Creators preference movie type:

Some creators already give you scripts. And depednding of the target of the movie (commercial, ambitious) their salary is higher or lower. Do you think that would be interesting to see if their salary changes also depending the movie type (crime, comedy), because they are interested in making that time that type of movie.

Editor.

Could be possible to resurrect it, and making it compatible with movie stats?

Importance of gossips.

Would be interresting on how many people pays attentions to gossips. Me at first of the game sometimes I look at them, but when I have 8 studios and 7 movies producing I just do not care about them. I don't know another players.

Economics/Advertisment tweaks.

- Proper adversiment tutorial. I feel that i do not end clicking the clue to figure the advertisement of the movies right. How star appeal relations to advertisement?

- Box office. it is not realistic. In a way that movie are not 2-3 years in theaters. Most of the movies recover all their investment in the first month (More or less). I don't know if this has a solution. Because maybe if movies don't stay so much in theaters the game would be boring. Maybe didiving firsts months as threatical release and then as DVD/Bluray income. I understand that if it was realistic maybe we could not have a playable game. Also we are reaching an era where some movies make tons of money. Will it be reflected in the game?

-Streaming platforms. I understand that the game as a cinema fans to make movies. This idea is more for a tycoon game. But the possibility to sell the movie to a streaming platform and release there, getting the money first and the review when it is released. Obviously streaming platforms would not be aviable till 2010s.

The script award bug.

Is very easy to win the best script award in the oscars and cannes because it only nominates your script.

About the events:

Sorry I do not find appropiate events, probably now I will have more free time I can research something. The problem still exists. They are becoming repetitive with the time. One thing to became less repetitive would be distribute through decades adecuating them to the aviable technology in each decade 1970-1980s ("x"events) 1980-1990s ("y" events) and so on

Hope my ideas make you think to improve the game, sorry for the ortography.


   
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tomiga
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Maybe having more variety on the random events, because after a while playing they feel repetitive.

Maybe having a option that can enable funny/randoms events with unexpected consecuences.

I don't know if I'm expresing good.

In general every new version of the game has approach "Bigger, Better, more Badness". So in each major update I am trying to extend somehow existing functionalities. Nevertheless the main point of release is to introduce the new one.

Of course repetitiveness problem is common for all games similar to Movie Business as the more you play the more repetitiveness is visible (this is only the game which must be programmed and all situations and consequences must be predicted by author). There can be solved in few way (for example make it not so often appeared for the player.... or "just" create new one which requires more effort)

The other problem with new random/funny events it that... somebody needs to invent it... And I think this is is one of the major problem.

So please propose some funny events with unexpected consequences 🙂 which can be added to the game.

Sorry I don't want to bother your plans of the new version but I've playing a lot lately to the game and I want to point out some things. Hope your health is better.

Some Ideas:

Control Releasing the movie:

Having more control over when releasing the movie. For me it is not very important, but sometimes I have 2 or 3 big movies releasing in the same month, provoking major loses. Maybe having control over when releasing the movie would also affect the way you have to advert the movie. I think it can be a cool feature but I also understand that can change a lot the game in a bad way.

I was thinking about it as indeed it adds some more flexibility to producer (as trying to release movie on specific date - for festivals) But to say the truth it is a bit complicated. As the current game mechanics strongly depends on fixed premiere dates and change it requires simply big effort. Maybe in the future.

Actor perspective:

A game mode where you are an actor and you receive some parts in movies, getting reviews and awards and improving your skills over years. I view this idea not very likely to be implemented (too much effort, much like another different game), but it is interesting.

Yes that is interesting... but also yes this is completly different game 🙂

Till when you plan to start the game:

If you are a donnor you can start the game in 1970, have you planned to even start earlier, it would be interesting. Maybe it would require some economic tweaks.

For starting game before 1970 there are two problems.

1. is economics as you mentioned (longer game would requiered some more complex economic model as at some point you got so much money that you do not know how to spend it... and making more expensive movies is not the ideal solution -> very often it leads to just better movies)

2. Creators database... currently there is not enough creators who career stared befor 1970 I think It would not be enough for balanced game (you would have to relay on young creators mostly in this period).

About creators:

- Capability of making more flexible skills of the creators. Enabling or disabling a option where in the game the creators get better or worse in their skills depending of their performance and the number of movies they made, marking more those stats in case of popularity.

I think at some point there were more flexible... but finally it lead to some very strange behaviours (related to extension of game period). And many of properties went up to the sky even for not talented person (but often selected by players). Again it could be handled but it requires again big changes in core mechnic (the way how the properties are modelled).

- More importance of non-real creators. The reality is that at least me I do not use practically never the non-real creators. I don't know anothers players. In the last part of the game, starting around 2015, the number of good action actors is very low. A good chance would be that for example starting in 2020, new stars appear giving the game vitality. I think in the first part of the game 1970s, are not needed, but in the last part, giving them importance and maybe 1 or 2 high skills would make the last part more fresh, i don't know.

I think most players use real creators (it is not just you). There is small idea which will be implemented in edition 2020 in this area. You have to wait with details to next news.

- Keanu Reeves Paradigm:

Old actors that get better in action movies when time passes? I understand that this is an exemption and it would not affect a lot to the game, but still interesting.

In fact in last years idea of action actors a bit (de)eavluated and that does not match what is implemented in the game. In the game there is pardigmat that the older the actor the less capable is for performing actions due to phisical limitation. That was truth till 90's. Now most of the films are made on green screen and filled with CGI which makes that in aciton movies there is no need for dedicated aciton heros... as anyone can play in stunning action scenes... I think I have to rethink in long perspective what to do with it.. but to say the truth currently I do not any have good idea..

- Creators preference movie type:

Some creators already give you scripts. And depednding of the target of the movie (commercial, ambitious) their salary is higher or lower. Do you think that would be interesting to see if their salary changes also depending the movie type (crime, comedy), because they are interested in making that time that type of movie.

Yes, idea sounds intresting. Need to think about it.

Editor.

Could be possible to resurrect it, and making it compatible with movie stats?

There are few problems related with this.

1. The truth was that editor was available but I personaly didn't get any benefits from it. Nobody were sharing they sets and I had to update it manually all the time. Additionally when a basic set was updated nobody got updates to their edited set. That's why idea of MovieStats araise where all players can contribute to one database. And it works much better.

Of course I understand that there is some special cases where dedicated editor would be helpful. Some niche creators which cannot be accepted in official set could be added, or some friends or player themself as creator. Additionaly you could change paraters of creators who you do not agree - but it also gives some additional fraud posibilites...

2. Second problem is with updates. It would be the best to make not the new set (which is very time consuming and I do not think that many players will do it - as history shows). But to have some kind of extension. So you can only add some subset of creators which will be merged with default set. But it requires some clevar logic behind it to support such thinks like updates default set + overwritten of existing person paramters...

So I do not plan separate editor anymore... but I was thinking about second option for donators (build in the game)... but still this is rather one of ideas for the future... I am also not yet decide if this is right way to go..

Importance of gossips.

Would be interresting on how many people pays attentions to gossips. Me at first of the game sometimes I look at them, but when I have 8 studios and 7 movies producing I just do not care about them. I don't know another players.

To say the truth I am also interested in this. This is not mandatory to play but sometimes some use full information can be found there. It is rather "small think" which makes game more real life. In new version there will be even more gossips.

Economics/Advertisment tweaks.

- Proper adversiment tutorial. I feel that i do not end clicking the clue to figure the advertisement of the movies right. How star appeal relations to advertisement?

I think key is advertisment potential (not stars). Check analitics section and charst included there.

- Box office. it is not realistic. In a way that movie are not 2-3 years in theaters. Most of the movies recover all their investment in the first month (More or less). I don't know if this has a solution. Because maybe if movies don't stay so much in theaters the game would be boring. Maybe didiving firsts months as threatical release and then as DVD/Bluray income. I understand that if it was realistic maybe we could not have a playable game. Also we are reaching an era where some movies make tons of money. Will it be reflected in the game?

I didn't plan to change anythink in box office (ok in 2020 there is small tweak of algorithm that with time a bit harder will be to get to Box Office). Currently there is no separation on cinema/bluray profits. Probably you are right it would be more realistic to introduce bluray/dvd) but from other side discs become obsolate... streaming become the king... so I am not sure there is a chance to make some massive changes in this element of gameplay... becuase I will spend a lot of effort... and it still will not be realistic...

-Streaming platforms. I understand that the game as a cinema fans to make movies. This idea is more for a tycoon game. But the possibility to sell the movie to a streaming platform and release there, getting the money first and the review when it is released. Obviously streaming platforms would not be aviable till 2010s.

No idea how to handle it... It just do not fit to core mechanic of the game. Of course it could be done as you got budget 10 mln to make some movie. What will left for you is your gain. You will not get any extra profit after release (as you sold already all right to the streaming platrofm) . But not sure if it is really fun. People will make then film for 2 mln to get 8 mln for free...

The script award bug.

Is very easy to win the best script award in the oscars and cannes because it only nominates your script.

Yes, I know it and I was trying to figure out what is going on... and to say the truth have no idea... 🙁

About the events:

Sorry I do not find appropiate events, probably now I will have more free time I can research something. The problem still exists. They are becoming repetitive with the time. One thing to became less repetitive would be distribute through decades adecuating them to the aviable technology in each decade 1970-1980s ("x"events) 1980-1990s ("y" events) and so on

There is a lot of new events in edition 2020. And also frequency of old one was modified. Hopfully this area will be improved.

Hope my ideas make you think to improve the game, sorry for the ortography.

Thank you very much for your ideas with detailed comments. I really appreciate it as it is very good to hear voice from real players who can point to some problems which I am not aware.

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One thing I forgot, a brand new interface/skin. I think yourself said that the skin was old, and some people that downloaded thinks the game is a virus I think a more modern interface will atract more new players.


   
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One thing I forgot, a brand new interface/skin. I think yourself said that the skin was old, and some people that downloaded thinks the game is a virus I think a more modern interface will atract more new players.

Yeah, I know but it is not so simple... it is needs to rewrite everthing into some new technology... rather not realistic...

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